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 YEP, MORE OHIO MEMORIES
 
SOURCE; Comes from the many items in the BCBoggs Collection. Unless otherwise noted these reports etc come from MVVC Newsletters
 

The Miami Valley Vizsla Club’s fall field trial was held October 27 & 28, 1984 at Indian Creek Wildlife Area.

 

The weather was beautiful for people, but hot for the dogs.  We had a good wrangler, Youell Blair with his usual comfortable walkers, great gunners, safe as well as accurate – Thorny Lipscomb and Denver Kilburn and most important . . . new faces with young competitors.  Welcome to Thorny Lipscomb and his Diamond Lil, Debbie Rosema and her Magnum Rose (Debbie was also our Chief Marshall), plus several new observers.  A fried chicken dinner Saturday night was accompanied by champagne furnished by the Sloane’s to celebrate Camarily’s Sandman’s field championship earned earlier in Iowa.  It was almost a Sandman show again, he earned 2 first place blue ribbons, with Ch. Askim playing bridesmaid in 3 stakes earning 3 red ribbons.  Placement and stakes follow:

 

OPEN LIMITED GUN DOG

1.             Camarily Sandman – H/Bob Sloan

2.             Ch. Askim – H/Jim Busch

3.             Dual Ch. Bo Sassy Delibab – H/Del Seelye

4.             Pride’s Tilly Tiger – H/Del Seely

 

AMATEUR GUN DOG

1.                  Camarily Sandman – H/Bob Sloan

2.                  Ch. Askim – H/Jim Busch

3.                  Ch. Pat-A-Way Moho Miklos – H/Wayne Leis

4.                  F. Ch Bohl’s Ta Ta Julie Khan – H/Dave Kayser

 

OPEN PUPPY

1.             Withheld

2.             Revere’s Rip Roaring Rider – H/Del Seelye

3.             Tillio’s Trick or Treat – H/Del Seelye

4.             Behi’s Razmataz – H/Clif Boggs

 

OPEN GUN DOG

  1. Dual Ch. Bo Sassy Delibab – H/Del Seelye
  2. Ch. Askim – H/Jim Busch
  3. Redef’s Freeloadin Fred – H/Carol Feder
  4. Windy Willie – H/Ed Wallencheck

 

OPEN DERBY

  1. ????? 
  2. Melody’s Dixieland Delight – H/Ron Meyer
  3. Camarily Grain of Sand – H/Bob Sloan
  4. Khan Kis Dogvesz – H/Dave Kayser

 

AMATEUR LIMITED GUN DOG

  1. Withheld
  2. Withheld
  3. Withheld
  4. Windy Willie – H/Ed Wallencheck

 

We look forward to a fun spring field trial at Cherry Bend Pheasant Farm April 6 & 7, 1985.  Y’all mark your calendars now – and join us!  

 

PAST MIAMI VALLEY VIZSLA CLUB MEMORIES

Ohio’s Field Trialers by B.C. Boggs (from June 1981 VIZSLA FIELD)

 

 

Field trials go on most all summer, but I have hung up the leash for this spring. From here on, all roads lead to the fall nationals in Nebraska. I have looked over some of the potential competition, and am pleased that we have some very promising gun dogs here in Ohio. Ohio Vizsla owners now have several good dogs. Over the past two weeks, they have spread out in every direction and have returned home with wins and placements. I believe Ohio Vizsla owners are maturing both as handlers and breeders of fine dogs. They will offer strong competition this fall, but I predict that the year 1982 will be their strongest year yet. Considering that the Miami Valley Vizsla Club had 87 Vizsla entries this spring is testimony enough to all these years we have closed all our stakes except Open Limited Gun Dog. Vizsla owners have responded by learning to train and compete effectively with each other. Those with field champion titles can compete with other breeds, but perhaps not too effectively against the basic prejudice often encountered.

 

I have often advised other Vizsla specialty clubs to follow our pattern and forget about PROFIT while concentrating on developing and helping each other become competitive. Breed improvement will not come about any other way, for the best potential handler and dog are perhaps excluded because they do not have the confidence to enter against the more experienced dogs and handlers. It is a real concern and will always keep many of our Vizsla novice owners out of field trials.

 

While Ohio Vizsla club members had fifty one of the eighty seven entries this spring, we recognize that our trials are made by those Vizsla owners from out of state with their entries also. This spring we had several scratches before the drawing, or otherwise we would have turned entries away. This should never happen. Every Vizsla entry should be accepted. Hopefully the two Ohio clubs recognize that this problem needs solved for the fall trials. We have discussed having two courses on Saturday and one Sunday, and then adding an Amateur Limited Gun Dog stake. Too many amateur stakes are now pop gun which makes it very difficult for some dogs to win the amateur title as four retrieving points are needed. No club to my knowledge offers amateur puppy or derby and open points from in these stakes cannot be used. Consequently, the Amateur Field Champion title is more difficult to obtain. Most clubs only offer one amateur stake and four open stakes. A change is needed. While I recognize the need for having some method to highlight winning dogs, the Top Ten has never found much favor with me. Professional handlers should always be at the top as they attend the maximum number of trials while some amateur handlers enter only four to eight trials a year, and may have much better dogs.

Once my dogs finish their titles, II am looking for other prospects to campaign while fully realizing that it is wrong to “retire” a top winning dog altogether. Nevertheless, it has been my practice to quit running in closed amateur stakes and many gun dog stakes closed to other breeds. Ch Behi’s Jeri Redef’s win in Amateur at the Greater Cleveland Vizsla Club’s trial March 21/22 and DC Behi Csecse Gyors Lab’s win at the Miami Valley Vizsla Club’s trial April 4/5 should have met all the requirements for their Amateur titles. Fleeta was left in the Conestoga Vizsla Club’s Amateur stake because it was open to other breeds. Because of having finished both Amateur titles, I changed my two entries from the Amateur to the Open Gun Dog stake at the German Shorthaired Pointer Club of Ohio April 11/12. As it turned out, the ground was very wet and muddy, yet Fleeta (*behi Csecse Gyors Lab) had four quail fiunds and ran an extremely forward, strong, race. She was called back for a retrieve and was awarded third place.

 

I entered a Shoot to Retrieve trial March 28 and placed Ch Behi’s Jeri Redef second in a field of 32 pointing dogs. The interesting fact was that both Jeri and the first place dog had identical bird work with one back. The difference was that the first place dog was not steady to wing and show. The field trial chairman apologized to me for what he assumed was poor or unfair judging. These trials do not provide adequate means to credit dogs that are steady to wing and shot, and such crediting may not even be desirable for those most interested in playing this game to win. Some experienced Shoot To Retrieve handlers can be less than honest in their methods. They will purposely find a reason not to shoot and work and rework that bird for the entire 25 minutes (an unshot bird is marked for three minutes before either dog can work it again) and obtain credit for a find each time. The scoring may also be manipulated by judges who favor one handler or dog breed over the other. So, what’s new ?

 

At the Conestoga trial April 18/19 Hilda and I were there a couple days early. In exercising Fleeta pulled a toenail from the bottom of a toe. Her performance suffered each time she was down. In the Amateur stake, I had her foot bandaged and fully expected to pick her up if she did not run well. The protective cover lasted through the worst of the mowed brush and she went on to win with a very satisfying performance. Her grandmother, Trixie, most always had a protective boot to protect a cut pad and she never let a handicap detract from a performance.

 

Ohio Vizsla owners having success at recent trials other than their own are: Robert Sloane with Ch Camarily Rambling Rose CD won Open Gun Dog at the Vizsla Club of Eastern Iowa and Amateur Gun Dog at Western Michigan Vizsla Club and placing third in Open Puppy with Camarily Rambling Buckaroo at Eastern Iowa, Wayne Leis placed second in Amateur Gun Dog with Miss Midge of Behi at Western Michigan Vizsla Club; Pat Johnson placed fourth with Redef’s J Paces Rush in Open Gun Dog and third in Amateur Gun Dog at Western Michigan Vizsla Club; Dr Nancy Boggs Heinold DVM placed third in Open Puppy with Paradox Title Chase of Behi at Western Michigan Vizsla Club and David Kayser placed second in a Walking shooting dog at the Clovernook Pointer and Setter trial with Behi’s TaTa Julie Khan.

 

There are other gun dogs here that are also competitive with others waiting in the wings and their handlers getting progressively more competitive. Carolyn Feder got the “bug” again at the Miami Valley Vizsla Club with Redef’s Freeloadin Fred  and is serious about having him broke by fall. Dr Paul Rothan, Dave Kayser and I plan on helping her reach that goal.

 

 

 

(Insert bw of hand caressing Vizsla temperament)

 

 

 

Providing some background and additional information to the above article. At this time MVVC was field trialing at Lloyd’s Wildlife Area which allowed for one course only. 87 entries was considered a huge trial for one course. Additionally there was no Amateur Walking Derby or Amateur Walking Puppy stakes. And Amateur Limited Gun Dog was added to the schedule during this time. At this time the Illinois and Ohio clubs were one of few Vizsla clubs offering trials open to Vizslas only. Despite some opinions that existed back then and now about lowering the quality of the stakes offered by closing trials/stakes, this lack of quality never panned out. Closed stakes were done so because the Vizsla entries were justified in quantity and quality. Illinois and Ohio became the benchmark of Midwestern Vizsla field trialing in high class open competition and high class amateur field trialing.

 

Other Ohio dogs competing at this time were to be DC AFC Fieldstone’s Tip Top Timmy owned by Rothans and DC AFC Fieldstone’s Hey Duke, owned by Stan Weiss. Timmy was destined to win his NAFC title in Nebraska 84. Paul has been known to state that luck rode with him in the saddle for that National Championship. He had just finished the course. Time was called. He whoaed Timmy with a bird popping up a couple steps ahead of the whoaed dog. Other Ohio dogs competing with high class amateur status during this time was the pair owned by David G/Clara Kayser of Redef’s TaTa Beki Khan and Behi’s Tata Julie Khan acquiring their FC and AFC status. And yes, Redef’s Freeloading Fred became one of the dogs to beat that fall. Another MVVC bitch of note was the Schroaders’ Ch Boshar’s Budapest Babe who had been bred to a future VCA HOFer Ch Valhi Stick To Your Guns and had produced DC AFC Askim destined to be a VCA National Derby Winner, National Shoot To Retrieve Champion and the VCA HOF.

 

 

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MIAMI VALLEY VIZSLA CLUB SPRING TRIAL

 

          …..and the rains came…..the cold came…..the winds were ever present.  Sounds like a Victorian novel you say, no, it was only a typical spring Kentucky week-end.  The Lloyds Wildlife Area became muddy and lonely, with only a few hardy souls venturing out as a gallery.

 

          The birds were delivered late after the Schroaders narrowly missed having a serious accident on the expressway.  Everyone’s concern over their safety (the birds and the Schroaders) was evident.  Thanks to Clif Boggs and his thinking ahead, enough birds were on hand to start the trial and lasted up to the exact time the others arrived.

 

          Paul Rothan and Clif Boggs did a marvelous job as chairman and secretary, being senior members of the MVVC, they always put on a professional performance.

 

          Now for the results.

 

AMATEUR GUN DOG

1.                  Dual Ch. Behi Csecse Gyors Lab – Clif Boggs

2.                  Dual Ch. Fieldstone’s Hey Duke – Stan Weiss

3.                  Ch. Ceasar’s Image Barging Buck – Geno Woehrle

4.                  Redef’s Ta Ta Beki Kahn – David Kayser

 

OPEN PUPPY

1.                  Beau Jangles II – Paul Rothan

2.                  Rebel Rouser Raketa Rozsa – H. F. Rozanek

3.                  Semper Fi Chesty Puller – Al Lucas

4.                  Randy Bee’s Ramblin Man – Joe Manning

Honorable Mention:  Questover’s Renaissance – Kristin Keller

 

OPEN DERBY

  1. Rebel Rouser Yankee – H. F. Rozanek
  2. Bo Sassy Delibab – Del Seelye
  3. Pride’s Joy – Del Seelye
  4. Rebel Rouser Rosey – H. F. Rozanek

 

OPEN LIMITED GUN DOG

  1. Ch. Fieldstone’s Tip Top Timmy – Paul Rothan
  2. Ch. Camarily Rambling Rose CD – Bob Sloane
  3. Withheld
  4. Withheld

 

We had several new faces at our trial, some running a puppy or derby for the first time.  Welcome, and we’ll expect you again and again.  Other new comers were to observe, or to pick up puppies; we had three litters there, Ron/Julia Bonar, Paul/Shirley Rothan, and Bob/Sharon Schroader, all proud “grandparents”.  Ed and Cathy Kottmeier representing the new Gateway Vizsla Club from St. Louis were attending their first field trial.  Again, a hearty welcome, and we hope you will visit and participate with us at every opportunity.

 

 

SHORT BCB NOTE

 

Between now and my next competitive dog(s) – mine or my friends, you can see me helping with the “dirty” work at field trials.  Aside from the fact that I enjoy working, it is one way to show my appreciation to all those who did that work while I was running dogs in nearly every stake.  My success was not accomplished without a lot of help from many people from a number of Vizsla specialty clubs.  I extend my heartfelt thank.          

 

          And, let me say that it is gratifying to see so many Vizsla specialty clubs closing stakes, even trials.  The 102 Vizsla entries at the Vizsla Club of Greater Cleveland is a record and illustrates the need for Vizsla clubs to serve Vizsla owners first.  A protracted policy of clubs closing stakes and trials will bring that number much higher.  It was only recently that I influenced the two Ohio clubs to quit limiting entries.  Certainly it takes more workers to operate two courses, but it must be done.

 

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1981 MVVC FT Caboose by dlb

This blurb appeared in VIZSLA FIELD, September 1981, Editor-Bill Fisher

 

MIAMI VALLEY VIZSLA CLUB FALL FIELD TRIAL

Cherrybend Pheasant Farm, Wilmington, Ohio

November 7/8 1981

 

This trial had previously been advertised to be held at Lloyd’s Wildlife Area, Crittenden, Ky

 

Due to Deer Season at Lloyd’s Wildlife Area at Crittenden, Kentucky the MVVC ft location has been changed. So I expect all those who begged for Cherrybend to show up. The grounds are beautiful with the gently rolling hills and is pheasant heaven. We will run five stakes with a possibility of concurrent courses one or both days. There is NO LIMIT on entries and All Vizsla entries will be accepted. This trial is perfect for Easterners to hit on the way back from Nationals. Entries close November 3, 1981 Tuesday at 7pm. This will ? Possibly ? be another chance to beat the National Amateur Champion and National Champion. I am sure the MVVC will capture both crowns or die trying. At any rate, celebrate the end of another Field Trial season with us. For more information contact FT Secretary Clara Kayser, 616 Mercury Dr, Cincinnati, Ohio or FT Chairman Diana Boggs, 82 Dove Dr, Erlanger, Ky.

 

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FIELD TRIAL REPORT
Typed by Kathy Toy

 

The Miami Valley Vizsla Club’s fall field trial was held October 27 & 28, 1984 at Indian Creek Wildlife Area.

 

The weather was beautiful for people, but hot for the dogs.  We had a good wrangler, Youell Blair with his usual comfortable walkers, great gunners, safe as well as accurate – Thorny Lipscomb and Denver Kilburn and most important . . . new faces with young competitors.  Welcome to Thorny Lipscomb and his Diamond Lil, Debbie Rosema and her Magnum Rose (Debbie was also our Chief Marshall), plus several new observers.  A fried chicken dinner Saturday night was accompanied by champagne furnished by the Sloane’s to celebrate Camarily’s Sandman’s field championship earned earlier in Iowa.  It was almost a Sandman show again, he earned 2 first place blue ribbons, with Ch. Askim playing bridesmaid in 3 stakes earning 3 red ribbons.  Placement and stakes follow:

 

OPEN LIMITED GUN DOG

1.             Camarily Sandman – H/Bob Sloan

2.             Ch. Askim – H/Jim Busch

3.             Dual Ch. Bo Sassy Delibab – H/Del Seelye

4.             Pride’s Tilly Tiger – H/Del Seely

 

AMATEUR GUN DOG

1.                  Camarily Sandman – H/Bob Sloan

2.                  Ch. Askim – H/Jim Busch

3.                  Ch. Pat-A-Way Moho Miklos – H/Wayne Leis

4.                  F. Ch Bohl’s Ta Ta Julie Khan – H/Dave Kayser

 

OPEN PUPPY

1.             Withheld

2.             Revere’s Rip Roaring Rider – H/Del Seelye

3.             Tillio’s Trick or Treat – H/Del Seelye

4.             Behi’s Razmataz – H/Clif Boggs

 

OPEN GUN DOG

  1. Dual Ch. Bo Sassy Delibab – H/Del Seelye
  2. Ch. Askim – H/Jim Busch
  3. Redef’s Freeloadin Fred – H/Carol Feder
  4. Windy Willie – H/Ed Wallencheck

 

OPEN DERBY

  1. Camarily Sandman – H/Bob Sloan
  2. Melody’s Dixieland Delight – H/Ron Meyer
  3. Camarily Grain of Sand – H/Bob Sloan
  4. Khan Kis Dogvesz – H/Dave Kayser

 

AMATEUR LIMITED GUN DOG

  1. Withheld
  2. Withheld
  3. Withheld
  4. Windy Willie – H/Ed Wallencheck

 

 

Insert free stand of fleeta

 

 

 

 

 

 

MIAMI VALLEY VIZSLA CLUB

Versatility Test – May 24, 1986

(typed by Kathy Toy)

 

 

(Insert portrait by Dave Heinold of DC Chase)

 

 

          A small but enthusiastic group gathered at Paul and Shirley Rothan’s home for the much sought after activity for new members.  (Tootsie, we missed you!)  The members who came envied the usual camaraderie and pride in our breed we feel at such events.  Present were:  Paul and Shirley Rothan, Martha and Thorny Lipscomb, Debby Fridlund, Marie Rogers, Sharon Schroader, Wayne and Paty Leis, Clif Boggs, Bob and Marylee Sloane, Dave Kayser, and our judges:  Henry Stoess and his wife Maryann, Sue Bathauer, Debby Fridlund (judged field), and not the least – Jerry Campbell, our gunner.

 

          Obedience was the only nemesis with only one pass, AFCh. Redef’s TaTa Beki Khan, owned by Dave and Carla Kayser passed and completed her Versatility Certificate requirements.  Congrat!  Conformation was passes by Boshar’s Diamond Lil owned by Martha and Thorny Lipscomb, Fieldstone’s Tip Top Mr. T. owned by Paul and Shirley Rothan, Ch. Behi Razmataz owned by Clif Boggs, Ch. Fairwynde’s Rika of R Retreat owned by Marie Rogers, and Boshar’s Copperfield Bart owned by Sharon Schroader.  The field had the following passes:  Ch. Pat a Ways Moho Miklos owned by Patty and Wayne Leis, Ch. Behi Gyors Vonat PD Carla, Ch. Behi Razmataz, Ch. Paradox Title Case of Behi and Clif Boggs, Ch. Dineszs Gypsy of R Retreat and Marie Rogers, and Sharon Schroader.  A lunch break was taken after conformation and Obedience but before the field work.

 

          Shirley and Paul, thanks for your hospitality, as usual you made us all feel welcome and while we had not new members to help, we used the experience to sharpen our “old” skills.

 

          Sharon Schroader, Chairman

 

 

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